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Ayer me he topado con la sorpresa de una supuesta demanda por parte de facebook por uso de su marca en uno de mis sitios.

A continuación les dejo el mensaje original:

Remitente: enforcement@mm-facebook.com

To Whom It May Concern:

We write regarding your registration and use of the domain name juegos-facebook.org, which contains the famous Facebook trademark.

As you know, Facebook is the leading online social network, available at www.facebook.com and on mobile devices. Facebook has used the Facebook trademark in connection with its social networking services since 2004. The Facebook trademark is registered in the United States and internationally, and is one of the most famous trademarks on the Internet. As we hope you can appreciate, protection of its trademarks is very important to Facebook.

We were concerned when we learned of your registration and use of juegos-facebook.org. Specifically, your unauthorized use of the Facebook name is likely to cause confusion as to whether you or your company’s activities are authorized, endorsed, or sponsored by Facebook when, in fact, they are not. While Facebook respects your right of expression and your desire to conduct business on the Internet, Facebook must enforce its own rights in order to protect its valuable and famous trademark.

We recognize that you may not be aware of the laws that apply to trademarks and domain names. Registration and use of domains can violate the Lanham Act (15 U.S.C. 1051 and the following sections) if they infringe or are likely to dilute a trademark. Infringement occurs when a third party’s use of a company’s trademark (or a confusingly similar variation thereof) is likely to confuse consumers as to the affiliation, sponsorship or endorsement of the third party’s services. Trademark dilution occurs when a third party’s use of a variation of a company’s trademark is likely to lessen the distinctiveness of the company’s famous trademark. Registration and use of a domain name containing another’s trademark can also violate the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act, and may be subject to transfer under the Uniform Domain-Name Dispute-Resolution Policy.

As a responsible trademark owner, where necessary we have filed proceedings in the relevant courts and also before the United Nation's World Intellectual Property Organization's arbitration panel to prevent the unauthorized use of our trademarks in domains. In these proceedings, the Facebook trademark has been found to be famous and to be entitled to broad protection.

To avoid consumer confusion and harm to the Facebook brand, we must insist that you stop using the name and domain juegos-facebook.org and disable any site available at that address. You should not sell, offer to sell, or transfer the domain name to a third party and should let the domain registration expire.

You are of course welcome to explain on a replacement website that your product works with the Facebook Platform, or relates to the Facebook service, so long as that statement is fair and accurate, and does not falsely suggest that Facebook endorses you or your product. For more information on how to properly refer to Facebook, please visit our brand resource center at www.facebookbrand.com/brand. For specific guidelines for developers, see https://developers.facebook.com/docs/guides/policy/examples_and_explanations/branding/.

Please confirm in writing that you will agree to resolve this matter as requested. We appreciate your cooperation.

Sincerely,
Ethel

Legal Dept.
Facebook, Inc.

Que opinan, es Facebook realmente el que me demanda?
 
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Ayer me he topado con la sorpresa de una supuesta demanda por parte de facebook por uso de su marca en uno de mis sitios.

A continuación les dejo el mensaje original:

Remitente: enforcement@mm-facebook.com



Que opinan, es Facebook realmente el que me demanda?

¿La demanda te llegó por mensaje privado o por mail?
Si fué por mail supongo que en la Ayuda de Facebook tiene que a ver un apartado en el que mencione posibles remitentes falsos.
Un ejemplo de esto pero de MercadoLibre (fué lo primero que se me ocurrió XD, pero es para que se entienda a lo que me refiero): MercadoLibre Uruguay
 

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¿La demanda te llegó por mensaje privado o por mail?
Si fué por mail supongo que en la Ayuda de Facebook tiene que a ver un apartado en el que mencione posibles remitentes falsos.
Un ejemplo de esto pero de MercadoLibre (fué lo primero que se me ocurrió XD, pero es para que se entienda a lo que me refiero): MercadoLibre Uruguay

Por email, voy a chequear eso gracias.
 

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Tiene toda la pinta de ser un fake. Y por cierto, una demanda se pone en el juzgado, no en el buzón de entrada :witless: Yo no le daría importancia.
 

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Primero tienen que ponerte una advertencia de demanda .... no se pero asegúrate por si acaso ...
 

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Tiene toda la pinta de ser un fake. Y por cierto, una demanda se pone en el juzgado, no en el buzón de entrada :witless: Yo no le daría importancia.

Al parecer no, acabo de hacer un whois a facebookbrand.com y esta registrado a nombre de Facebook Inc.

https://www.markmonitor.com/cgi-bin...registration&iframe=true&width=800&height=500

mm-facebook.com la URL del remitente también esta registrada a nombre de Facebook Inc.

Lo que me da bronca es que pierdo tiempo y dinero invertido en el blog, aparte no entiendo como name.com permite registrar esta clase de dominios.
 

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Al parecer no, acabo de hacer un whois a facebookbrand.com y esta registrado a nombre de Facebook Inc.

https://www.markmonitor.com/cgi-bin...registration&iframe=true&width=800&height=500

mm-facebook.com la URL del remitente también esta registrada a nombre de Facebook Inc.

Lo que me da bronca es que pierdo tiempo y dinero invertido en el blog, aparte no entiendo como name.com permite registrar esta clase de dominios.

Compañero es lamentable esto, pero creo que debiste haberte informado antes de registrar un dominio que contenga el nombre de una empresa reconocida mundialmente como lo es Facebook Inc.

Por es siempre se corre el riesgo de uno perder el dominio por usar un nombre de alguna empresa establecida, bastante se ha hablado acá en el foro sobre eso, y no solo aqui, sino en muchos otros sitios en internet.

Mucha suerte compañero. :encouragement:
 

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Tampoco lo veo como una demanda. Como mucho es un aviso. Mira otro nombre, y listo creo yo. Haz una reedirección para que tu gente se entere.
 

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Una vez que revises y compruebes que el remitente es legítimo, lo cual pudiera o no ser, yo te recomendaría platicarlo brevemente con algún abogado especializado en cuestiones de marca y propiedad industrial. Es muy probable que con alguna explicación o aclaración en el footer y dentro de tu página de términos de servicio y políticas de privacidad, en donde menciones que no eres una página oficial ni estás avalado de ninguna manera por Facebook, legalmente quedes protegido de cualquier procedimiento.

Este tipo de cartas ellos saben bien que son suficientes para la mayoría de los casos, pues causan suficiente temor como para que el dueño las retire sin averiguar más y así de fácil y a la primera, con una simple cartita ellos se evitan procedimientos más costosos, pero a mi entender, hay recursos de los que puedes echar mano para protegerte y quitártelos de encima.
 

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Puede tratarse de una advertencia previa a una demanda en un juzgado. Estos temas sería recomendable que lo trataras con un abogado o asesor que te podrá dar una respuesta más clara al respecto
 

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Lo que me da bronca es que pierdo tiempo y dinero invertido en el blog, aparte no entiendo como name.com permite registrar esta clase de dominios.

Cualquier empresa que esté registrada como tal e incluso cualquier persona con un determinado nombre (nombre completo, con el apellido incluído) puede reclamar un dominio en el caso de que el nombre de la empresa o la persona se encuentre en él.

A mi me pasó con Paypal, registré hace un tiempo el dominio "comprarconpaypal.com" y uno o dos días después de comprarlo me llegó este correo:

Your Unauthorized and Infringing Domain Name Registration

We are writing to follow up on our previous email to you concerning your registration of the domain name comprarconpaypal.com, which contains the famous PayPal trademark.

We had previously explained to you in full detail the nature of PayPal's business activities and the strong protection that the PayPal name and trademark receives in connection with online commerce, financial services and related services. The coined term PayPal is one of the most famous trademarks on the Internet and in the world and our company owns the exclusive trademark rights to the PayPal name in the United States and internationally, including related common law rights.

We remain highly concerned and disappointed by the fact that despite our good faith effort to advise you of our rights and seek to amicably resolve this situation, you have simply ignored our effort and continued your problematic activities relating to the comprarconpaypal.com domain name. Any inappropriate and unapproved use of comprarconpaypal.com would violate the Lanham Act (15 U.S.C. 1051 et seq.) because it infringes and dilutes the famous PayPal trademark. Should you choose to operate an infringing site with full knowledge of our rights, you would be considered a willful infringer and, as such, could be liable for greater damages.

PayPal takes the infringement of its brands very seriously and takes aggressive steps to protect its brands and, more importantly, guard consumers that will be damaged as a result of the confusion caused by infringement of our brands. While we would still prefer to resolve this matter amicably, if you continue to ignore our attempts to resolve this matter promptly, we will have no choice but to take whatever action we deem necessary to protect our rights. For these reasons, and to avoid consumer confusion, PayPal must insist that you do not use comprarconpaypal.com for any reason. You should not sell, offer to sell, or transfer the domain name to a third party and should let the domain registration expire.

Please confirm in writing that you will agree to take the necessary steps to resolve this matter amicably. If we do not receive confirmation from you that you will comply with our request, we will have no choice but to consider escalating this further to protect our rights.

Sincerely,

Edith
eBay Legal Department

El correo electrónico no venía de una casilla@paypal.com, si no desde [B]3322@ebayenforcement.com[/B] , así que aunque no coincida el dominio es probable que sea verídico.

Mi consejo es que te olvides del dominio y busques otro. En mi caso no me quedó otra, ya que soy "paypal-dependiente", ni dudé en resistirme.
 

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Por favor, ten en cuenta 📝 que si deseas hacer un trato 🤝 con este usuario, está baneado 🔒.
Por lo que he podido ver el remitente es legítimo
 

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[MENTION=17745]rafadizeosp[/MENTION] Mira esto, por ejemplo:

Can You Use the Name of a Company on a Domain?

Can you use the name of a company on your domain? What if they decide to sue you? Would you lose the domain automatically? These are some of the questions most people ask when it comes to domains.

I am not a lawyer, but I have researched those topics quite a bit over the years, especially because I probably already bought a hundred domains or so, and I wanted to be safe. Obviously the information below is only my take on the issue and should not be considered as legal advice.

So can you use the name of a company on your domain? The answer is yes, as long as consumers and people in general, upon seeing your domain or visiting your site, won’t be confused and assume the site is an official one, or that it’s in some way related to the company.

For instance, there’s a site called AppleInsider.com, which covers all things Apple. Apple is a registered trademark, but they can use it because the domain makes it clear that it’s a news site and not related to Apple Inc. in any way.

If you use the domain AppleIpods.com for your site, on the other hand, some consumers could get confused and assume that’s an official website from Apple to sell iPods, and this would get you in trouble. If Apple sued you over this domain you would probably lose the domain and even be ordered to pay damages to them.

Many cases are not a clear cut as the ones above, however. For instance, what if you named your site AppleCentral.com or AppleSpot.com? It’s not easy to say whether consumers could get confused or not in those cases.

My advice is to avoid those gray areas, as probably you would need to go to court to find out whether or not you have the right to use the trademark on your domain, meaning that you would need to spend money and handle quite a headache.

I am talking from experience here. A couple of years ago I launched a website about a very popular game on Facebook. The domain was the name of the game with the suffix “Spot”, which was on the gray area. Within a couple of months the lawyers of the company behind the game sent me a cease and desist letter, asking me to stop using the domain or face legal action.

I think that if the case went to court I had good chances of winning, as the website clearly indicated that I was not related to the official game or company in any way. But the trouble of handling the legal battle was not worth it for me, so I just dropped the domain and cut my losses.


FUENTE: Can You Use the Name of a Company on a Domain?

Question: What are the limits of trademark rights?

Answer: There are many limits, including:

Fair Use
There are two situations where the doctrine of fair use prevents infringement:
The term is a way to describe another good or service, using its descriptive term and not its secondary meaning. The idea behind this fair use is that a trademark holder does not have the exclusive right to use a word that is merely descriptive, since this decreases the words available to describe. If the term is not used to label any particular goods or services at all, but is perhaps used in a literary fashion as part of a narrative, then this is a non-commercial use even if the narrative is commercially sold.

Nominative fair use
This is when a potential infringer (or defendant) uses the registered trademark to identify the trademark holder's product or service in conjunction with his or her own. To invoke this defense, the defendant must prove the following elements:
the product or service cannot be readily identified without the mark
he/she only uses as much of the mark as is necessary to identify the goods or services
he/she does nothing with the mark to suggest that the trademark holder has given his approval to the defendant

Parody Use
Parodies of trademarked products have traditionally been permitted in print and other media publications. A parody must convey two simultaneous -- and contradictory -- messages: that it is the original, but also that it is not the original and is instead a parody.

Non-commercial Use
If no income is solicited or earned by using someone else's mark, this use is not normally infringement. Trademark rights protect consumers from purchasing inferior goods because of false labeling. If no goods or services are being offered, or the goods would not be confused with those of the mark owner, or if the term is being used in a literary sense, but not to label or otherwise identify the origin of other goods or services, then the term is not being used commercially.

Product Comparison and News Reporting
Even in a commercial use, you can refer to someone else's goods by their trademarked name when comparing them to other products. News reporting is also exempt.

Geographic Limitations
A trademark is protected only within the geographic area where the mark is used and its reputation is established. For federally registered marks, protection is nationwide. For other marks, geographical use must be considered. For example, if John Doe owns the mark Timothy's Bakery in Boston, there is not likely to be any infringement if Jane Roe uses Timothy's Bakery to describe a bakery in Los Angeles. They don't sell to the same customers, so those customers aren't confused.

Non-competing or Non-confusing Use
Trademark rights only protect the particular type of goods and services that the mark owner is selling under the trademark. Some rights to expansion into related product lines have been recognized, but generally, if you are selling goods or services that do not remotely compete with those of the mark owner, this is generally strong evidence that consumers would not be confused and that no infringement exists.


FUENTE: https://www.chillingeffects.org/trademark/faq

Si googleas Can I use a registered mark as part of my website? vas a encontrar mucha información.
 

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Te recomendaría que te dejes el dominio. Igual si no fuera legítimo (que lo dudo 100%) cuando tu dominio tenga más tráfico facebook se dara cuenta y te hara una denuncia y adiós trabajo.
 
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Me da bronca que siempre pregunto cosas similares en el foro y nunca se me da importancia :/
Toda la vida preguntando si para facutrar con un sitio encesito esta rregistrado como una empresa para que no sucedan estas cosas... y nada. :(
 

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Lo que no entiendo es porque a mi me dicen que no puedo usar, vender ni transferir el dominio cuando name.com me lo vendió a mí.
 

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Yo tendría cuidado pues Facebook sí que es muy serio para ésto a diferencia que otras empresas. No dejan utilizar su marca en dominios y suelen enviar unos cuantos emails de advertencia antes de hacer nada. Y.. por su puesto llevan todas las de ganar.
 
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